{"id":57141,"date":"2012-05-15T13:33:37","date_gmt":"2012-05-15T11:33:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/manuel-delgado-fa-balanc-del-15m-un-any-despres\/"},"modified":"2012-05-15T13:33:37","modified_gmt":"2012-05-15T11:33:37","slug":"manuel-delgado-fa-balanc-del-15m-un-any-despres","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/es\/manuel-delgado-fa-balanc-del-15m-un-any-despres\/","title":{"rendered":"Manuel Delgado fa balan\u00e7 del 15M un any despr\u00e9s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-size: 8pt;\"><strong>Ni en&nbsp;la confer\u00e8ncia ni el debat s&#8217;analitzaren questions de g\u00e8nere* en el si del moviment ni en els seus objectius&nbsp;de canvi en la societat patriarcal.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">El 15M ha de deixar&nbsp;el centre de la cr\u00edtica \u00e8tica i passar a la cr\u00edtica pol\u00edtica<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">El passat dia 10 de maig es celebrava a Llinars del Vall\u00e8s la sisena xerrada alternativa del cicle&nbsp; que organitzen diverses entitats i col\u00b7lectius d\u2019indignats\/des del Baix Montseny amb l\u2019objectiu de debatre sobre la crisi sist\u00e8mica que vivim i de cercar alternatives amb la convicci\u00f3 que \u201cun altre m\u00f3n \u00e9s possible\u201d. En aquest cas el ponent era <strong>Manuel Delgado<\/strong>, Doctor en Antropologia per la UB. <\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Quan, potser, la majoria de les&nbsp; prop de 40 persones que varen assistir a l\u2019acte esper\u00e0ven una confer\u00e8ncia &#8220;al uso&#8221;, una intervenci\u00f3 on es fes balan\u00e7 del que havia estat aquest any pel moviment del 15M, \u00e9s a dir, una an\u00e0lisi del que s\u2019havia fet; els seus encerts i errors i&nbsp;de possibles passos a seguir, l\u2019inici de la xerrada ja indicava que seria una altra cosa.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-27787\" width=\"450\" height=\"241\" src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_1.jpg\" alt=\"Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_1\" style=\"vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px; display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_1.jpg 450w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_1-300x161.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 450px) 100vw, 450px\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Va comen\u00e7ar <strong>Delgado<\/strong> en un to \u201cprovocador\u201d dient que ell \u201c no tenia la m\u00e9s remota idea del que est\u00e0 passant\u201d i que si parlem d\u2019alternatives&#8230;. encara menys, i&nbsp; continu\u00e0 dient que \u201cuna revoluci\u00f3 no es fa contra l\u2019ordre establert sin\u00f3 contra el desordre. El neoliberalisme es desordre, no respon a cap l\u00f2gica que no sigui obtenir el m\u00e0xim de beneficis. Ning\u00fa t\u00e9 cap pla. <strong>Rajoy<\/strong> tampoc en t\u00e9. Aix\u00f2 es el m\u00e9s inquietant, que no hi ha cap pla.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Segons ell -va seguir en el seu to punyent- actualment els moviments alternatius no tenen alternativa, abans la lluita era pel comunisme. \u201cFa 20 anys hi havia un projecte de mon, la lluita tenia un horitz\u00f3\u201d.&nbsp;Ara, el 15M com a moviment ciutadanista pot aguditzar les contradiccions del sistema per\u00f2 no impugna al capitalisme sin\u00f3 els seus excessos morals, es un moviment circunstancionalista. No est\u00e0 adscrit a un moviment emancipador que vagi m\u00e9s enll\u00e0 d\u2019un enquadrament emocional, comunitarista. Aix\u00f2, si, valor\u00e0 molt positivament el que ha significat d\u2019incorporar&nbsp;a les&nbsp;i als joves a la pol\u00edtica.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">I continu\u00e0 parlant del 15M amb un to que clarament incitava al debat, quan&nbsp;q\u00fcestion\u00e0 algunes de les seves expressions, i explicit\u00e0 \u201cquan surten veus dient que el moviment no es d\u2019esquerres ni de dretes\u201d, o quan catalog\u00e0 de &#8220;reunions happy flowers\u201d l\u2019acampada a la pla\u00e7a de Catalunya. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">I el debat es va produir, i no en&nbsp;acabar la seva intervenci\u00f3, sin\u00f3 que va haver-hi una interpel\u00b7laci\u00f3 cont\u00ednua del ponent i una participaci\u00f3 molt important de les persones que assistien a l\u2019acte des de l\u2019inici. De fet es podria parlar m\u00e9s d\u2019una \u201cassemblea\u201d que d\u2019una xerrada-debat.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-27788 lazyload\" width=\"400\" height=\"233\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_2.jpg\" alt=\"Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_2\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 400px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 400\/233;vertical-align: middle; margin-top: 5px; margin-bottom: 5px; display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_2.jpg 400w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/05\/Manuel_Delgado_10_maig_201_2-300x175.jpg 300w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><br \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">I continu\u00e0 dient, el 15M ha de ser conscient que ha de perdre el&nbsp; seu car\u00e0cter&nbsp;emocional, ha de deixar&nbsp;el centre de la cr\u00edtica \u00e8tica i passar a la cr\u00edtica pol\u00edtica, i aquesta \u00e9s la discussi\u00f3 pol\u00edtica&#8230;no es tracta de jugar a fer&nbsp; \u201cfocs de camp\u201d sin\u00f3 d\u2019enfrontar-se al sistema. Que no vol dir tractar&nbsp;de radicalitzar el moviment sin\u00f3 de dotar-lo de contingut. Cal solv\u00e8ncia ideol\u00f2gica i org\u00e0nica. S\u2019ha d\u2019evitar el movimentisme. La cultura de lluita obrera tenia un format&nbsp;determinat de protesta,&nbsp;\u00bfquina forma adoptar\u00e0 el 15M? S\u2019ha de buscar la relaci\u00f3 amb l\u2019esquerra institucional per canalitzar les demandes del moviment. El 15M hauria de constituir-se en el gran moviment de reorganitzaci\u00f3 de l\u2019esquerra social i sindical.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">I acab\u00e0 la intervenci\u00f3 mostrant imatges seves participant&nbsp;en l\u2019acampada de la pla\u00e7a de Catalunya, per esvair qualsevol dubte que malgrat les seves cr\u00edtiques ell tamb\u00e9 \u00e9s 15M.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Al llarg de quasi dues hores de debat, es va parlar del 15M i el lideratge, de la seva relaci\u00f3 amb la pol\u00edtica, etc. A la sortida, molts comentaris, en general una valoraci\u00f3 molt positiva de la xerrada, \u201c en Delgado sempre planteja una din\u00e0mica de participaci\u00f3 i fa q\u00fcestionar coses\u201d, \u201ces important sentir tamb\u00e9 cr\u00edtiques\u201d&nbsp; i algunes persones amb un cert desconcert&#8230;.&nbsp;&nbsp;i incl\u00fas molestes pel to que utilitz\u00e0 el ponent. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">&nbsp;<\/span><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">El 15M continua en&nbsp;la seva diversitat&nbsp;i tamb\u00e9 en el cicle de xerrades convocades per: \u00c0gora Vilamajor, Amics del MALL, Assemblea Popular de Hostalric y rodalies, Banc del temps de Cardedeu, Cardedeu x un m\u00f3n millor, Cardedeu Vital, Indignats de Cardedeu, Indignats de Llinars, La Coordinadora de Llinars, Plataforma Stop K\u00e0rting de Llinars i l&#8217; Associaci\u00f3 Vilanimal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">&nbsp;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">*15 M i femismes al bloc de <a target=\"_blank\" href=\"http:\/\/feministesindignades.blogspot.com.es\/\" rel=\"noopener\">Feministes Indignades<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Articles relacionats:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><a href=\"index.php?option=com_content&amp;view=article&amp;id=2543%3Aqplaneta-indignado-ocupando-el-futuroq-o-la-indignacio-esperancada&amp;catid=182%3Ap-moviments-socials&amp;Itemid=231&amp;lang=ca\">Planeta indignado. 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