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Huma Jamshed Bashir. Fotografia: @Alicia Oliver<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Huma Jamshed Bashir, qu\u00edmica d’origen pakistan\u00e8s, \u00e9s la fundadora i presidenta de l’Associaci\u00f3 Cultural Educativa i Social-Operativa de Dones Pakistaneses (ACESOP)<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Huma va arribar a Espanya per reagrupaci\u00f3 familiar el 1997 al costat dels seus dos fills petits. Professora de qu\u00edmica a la Universitat Polit\u00e8cnica de Karachi, quan va arribar a Madrid \u201cen lloc de quedar-me a casa em vaig dedicar a estudiar. Em vaig matricular en un doctorat en qu\u00edmica, i el 2001 vaig defensar la meva tesi doctoral\u201d<\/em>. Just en aquesta data es traslladen a Barcelona on resideix des de llavors. I afirma, molt orgullosa, que en aquests 25 anys que porta al pa\u00eds \u201cno he estat m\u00e9s de 3 vegades al Pakistan. Estic totalment dedicada al m\u00f3n social i laboral d’aqu\u00ed\u201d.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Com vas arribar a l’\u00e0mbit associatiu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Em vaig trobar que faltava molta informaci\u00f3. La gent anava d’un costat a un altre, fent preguntes, tractant de trobar solucions a molts temes: habitatge, empadronament, salut, educaci\u00f3, desconeixement de l’idioma\u2026 moltes coses que necessitaven i no sabien on ni com aconseguir-ho. I jo, per manera de ser, quan alg\u00fa em preguntava em sentia obligada a acompanyar-la, fins i tot, tenint nens petits a casa. Aix\u00ed que a poc a poc em vaig anar involucrant, i quan em veien acompanyar a diferents persones en les institucions em preguntaven si era int\u00e8rpret o membre d’alguna associaci\u00f3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I aix\u00ed sorgeix ACESOP?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Doncs s\u00ed, llavors no sabia res sobre el m\u00f3n de les associacions, per\u00f2 em vaig adonar que era una bona opci\u00f3, i si tenia una identificaci\u00f3 podria ajudar millor a la comunitat pakistanesa. Aix\u00ed que la vaig crear i fins al dia d’avui soc la presidenta, perqu\u00e8 quan fem eleccions ning\u00fa vol assumir el c\u00e0rrec pel treball que dona i damunt, sense tenir cap mena de remuneraci\u00f3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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@Huma Jamshed Bashir. Foto @Alicia Oliver<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Abandones la teva carrera de qu\u00edmica despr\u00e9s de dedicar-li tant de temps i esfor\u00e7?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tenia dos nens petits. Hauria treballat en una ind\u00fastria fora de Barcelona i hauria estat tot el dia fora de casa. Per aix\u00f2, el meu marit em va dir que l’ajud\u00e9s en el seu negoci i aix\u00ed tindria tamb\u00e9 un salari. I els meus diners el gastava gaireb\u00e9 \u00edntegre en el treball social. Com el meu marit va ser molt conscient que no podia desenvolupar-me en la meva professi\u00f3, mai em va prohibir que em dediqu\u00e9s a l’\u00e0mbit social ni que an\u00e9s a cap reuni\u00f3, encara que jo tampoc mai li he demanat perm\u00eds. La veritat \u00e9s que no sempre ha estat f\u00e0cil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Quines activitats realitzeu a l’associaci\u00f3?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Fem activitats culturals i celebracions, com ara en aquestes dates de Nadal. Classes de catal\u00e0 i castell\u00e0, tallers de salut mental, di\u00e0leg sobre algun conflicte, preparaci\u00f3 de CV, coneixement dels plats t\u00edpics d’aqu\u00ed… Ajudem a alumnes que estan estudiant diferents m\u00e0sters i venen per aqu\u00ed. Tamb\u00e9 es posen en contacte amb nosaltres docents que tenen alumnes amb problemes per continuar estudiant o perqu\u00e8 els seus pares s’estan plantejant casar-les per un matrimoni concertat i volen saber com les poden ajudar i quines eines poden utilitzar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hi ha molts casos de matrimonis concertats o for\u00e7osos?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Molts, molt\u00edssims. I sempre intento mediar. Els hi explico quina estrat\u00e8gia i eines podem utilitzar. Evidentment, no existeix la recepta perfecta, ni \u00e9s una ci\u00e8ncia exacta. Canvia en funci\u00f3 de les fam\u00edlies i les persones. En algunes ocasions, s\u00f3n les pr\u00f2pies noies les que venen aqu\u00ed perqu\u00e8 desitgen casar-se per amor i les fam\u00edlies no les deixen. He arribat a organitzar-los una festa i som com la fam\u00edlia. Fem tots els rituals religiosos perqu\u00e8 puguin casar-se, perqu\u00e8 si no seria molt perill\u00f3s, i algun fan\u00e0tic les podria assassinar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Huma Jamshed Bashir durant una visita a Barcelona de l’activista pakistanesa i premi Nobel de la Pau, Malala Yousafzai amb el seu pare. Arxiu personal.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n

Has ajudat a moltes dones?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Bastants. I sempre intento conv\u00e8ncer-les que \u00e9s imprescindible que tinguin algun tipus de formaci\u00f3 i que facin cursos per tenir una vida autosuficient i valer-se per si mateixes i aix\u00ed, tractar de millorar el seu futur. I aix\u00f2 ho dic perqu\u00e8 m’he trobat amb casos en qu\u00e8 alguns marits han fet fora les seves dones de casa i m’ha tocat haver d’ajudar-les, buscar un pis compartit, trobar un treball, donar-lis roba\u2026 I les ajudo fins que ja tenen els recursos suficients per tirar endavant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Es donen molts casos de viol\u00e8ncia contra les dones en la comunitat pakistanesa?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

A m\u00e9s dels matrimonis for\u00e7ats tamb\u00e9 es donen casos de viol\u00e8ncia de g\u00e8nere. I es donen molts casos perqu\u00e8 \u00e9s una societat patriarcal que vol a la dona muda, obedient i que no pugui opinar. Solament obeir, i si parla, nom\u00e9s pot dir el que li han ensenyat, la veu del pare o del marit o del responsable de casa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Un altre tema problem\u00e0tic que tenim t\u00e9 a veure amb les persones LGTBI, i sempre ha estat un gran tab\u00fa. I aqu\u00ed, tamb\u00e9, per\u00f2 al Pakistan molt m\u00e9s. A m\u00e9s, \u00e9s un delicte religi\u00f3s i ning\u00fa vol parlar d’aix\u00f2. Si es detecten casos de lesbianes o gais, els pares intenten fer un matrimoni for\u00e7\u00f3s o b\u00e9, els maltracten. Aix\u00ed que intento parlar amb ells, per\u00f2 en general, existeix una mentalitat patriarcal i molt endarrerida, i a sobre dominada per la religi\u00f3. I la veritat, hi ha bastants imants tradicionals, amb pocs estudis i coneixements per a interpretar l’Alcor\u00e0. Encara falta molta informaci\u00f3 i treball en aquest aspecte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pel que veig, treball no et falta?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Doncs, no i tamb\u00e9 hi ha moltes dones embarassades que no coneixen l’idioma i on viuen no hi ha int\u00e8rpret o mediadora i llavors em criden de l’ambulatori o de l’hospital i els hi faig traducci\u00f3 simult\u00e0nia. Tamb\u00e9 col\u00b7laboro amb dones que tenen algun tipus de discapacitat que els impedeix comprendre b\u00e9 l’idioma. I amb diferents institucions i serveis socials de diferents municipis de Catalunya que em criden com d’Esplugues, Martorell, Cardona, Figueres, Girona\u2026 La veritat, \u00e9s que li dedico molt temps, encara que a vegades m’ajuden diverses persones. I tot de manera volunt\u00e0ria perqu\u00e8 he deixat de demanar subvencions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Amb tots els serveis que doneu i no teniu suport institucional?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Aix\u00ed \u00e9s, fa set anys que vaig deixar de demanar subvencions. Nom\u00e9s et paguen una part del projecte i no he trobat cap persona que tingui una certa visi\u00f3 i pugui ajudar-me gratu\u00eftament, perqu\u00e8 clar, hi ha molta gent que pensa en tenir un sou, per\u00f2 la subvenci\u00f3 no dona per a aix\u00f2, i jo no tinc temps per justificar les subvencions. Aix\u00ed que porto set anys sense sol\u00b7licitar cap subvenci\u00f3 ja que perdia molt de temps i energia justificant els projectes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

I fins quan seguir\u00e0s aix\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

A vegades discuteixo amb la meva fam\u00edlia -amb els meus fills i la meva germana- que em diuen que no haig de fer tantes coses, i que aix\u00f2 crema molt. Per\u00f2 jo ho tinc molt clar i no haig de demanar-li perm\u00eds a ning\u00fa. Nom\u00e9s li demano a D\u00e9u que tingui salut i recursos per tirar endavant.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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