{"id":91255,"date":"2026-02-19T19:58:39","date_gmt":"2026-02-19T18:58:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/?p=91255"},"modified":"2026-02-19T22:15:25","modified_gmt":"2026-02-19T21:15:25","slug":"el-casal-les-quatre-barres-de-lacolliment-a-la-transmissio-politica-i-cultural","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/en\/el-casal-les-quatre-barres-de-lacolliment-a-la-transmissio-politica-i-cultural\/","title":{"rendered":"El Casal Les Quatre Barres, de l\u2019acolliment a la transmissi\u00f3 pol\u00edtica i cultural"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Escrit per <strong>Sandra Miguez<\/strong> i <strong>Tona Gusi<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>La urbanitzaci\u00f3 de la ciutat de Castelar est\u00e0 emmarcada en la formaci\u00f3 del Gran Buenos Aires, des de 1930. A Castelar es va fer en les d\u00e8cades de 1940 i 1950. Va ser impulsada, com a la resta de la regi\u00f3, per les migracions internes, des d&#8217;altres localitats de la prov\u00edncia de Buenos Aires, i les altres prov\u00edncies. La major taxa de creixement fou en les d\u00e8cades de 1940 i 1950, en el marc de les migracions internes i la conformaci\u00f3 del Gran Buenos Aires. Entre 1938 i 1960, la poblaci\u00f3 de Castelar va tenir una taxa de creixement anual del 87%. Des de llavors, el sector ruralista es va reduir de forma constant, i cap a 1990 la superf\u00edcie de la localitat podia considerar-se totalment ocupada. El sector industrial va tendir a ubicar-se de primer a zones marginals. S\u2019hi desenvolup\u00e0 la &nbsp;industria t\u00e8xtil, fet que ens apropa a la vida d\u2019Anna Camps, la presidenta del Casal Les Quatre Barres, que \u00e9s el casal catal\u00e0 d\u2019aquesta ciutat.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.52-750x1000.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91355\" style=\"width:420px;height:auto\" srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.52.jpeg 750w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.52-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.52-768x1024.jpeg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jo- diu <strong>Anna Camps<\/strong>&#8211; soc nascuda a Barcelona el 1945 i vaig venir a l\u2019Argentina a l&#8217;edat d&#8217;uns 10 anys, el 1955. I a partir de llavors, sempre els meus pares, en sentir la nost\u00e0lgia de tot all\u00f2 que &nbsp;trob\u00e0vem a faltar de Catalunya, an\u00e0vem al Casal Catal\u00e0 que hi havia llavors. La meva fam\u00edlia ha crescut &nbsp;sempre, sempre amb el idioma catal\u00e0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Trob\u00e0veu a faltar Catalunya i tamb\u00e9 la gent, oi?<\/strong><br>Els meus pares treballaven al &nbsp;ram del t\u00e8xtil i hi havien molts catalans aqu\u00ed. I en el lloc on treballaven tamb\u00e9 en van &nbsp;con\u00e8ixer. Jo plorava molt, d\u2019enyor.. Aix\u00ed que quan &nbsp;la meva mare va entrar a treballar em va dir, &#8220;Et deixar\u00e9 amb una senyora que plora tant com tu.&#8221; I dit i fet, i en&nbsp; aquella casa tenien un fill, que tenia 2 anys m\u00e9s gran que jo i despr\u00e9s ens vam casar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>De pel\u00b7l\u00edcula, doncs!!&nbsp; <\/strong>Ai si! somriu&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Quan v\u00e0reu arribar a l\u2019Argentina, v\u00e0reu anar a Buenos Aires directament?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">No, en realitat primer vam anar a Mendoza, que \u00e9s a on ten\u00edem tots els contactes. Per\u00f2 a Mendoza no hi havia ind\u00fastria. I els meus pares, tots dos, eren del t\u00e8xtil. La meva mare era teixidora i el meu pare era tintorer. Vam estar-hi un any i com que no ens pod\u00edem desenvolupar laboralment, vam venir cap a Buenos Aires.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>&nbsp;I en el casal en aquell temps que gaud\u00edeu de les coses que trob\u00e0veu a faltar, qu\u00e8 s\u2019hi feia? M\u00fasica i can\u00e7\u00f3 popular, teatre&#8230;?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nosaltres hi an\u00e0vem &nbsp;quan pod\u00edem perqu\u00e8 els meus pares treballaven molt. Llavors no tenien gaire temps lliure i les dist\u00e0ncies eren llargues. Ara, quan hi havia una festa assenyalada no ens la perd\u00edem!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A &nbsp;Castelar, quan hi v\u00e0rem arribar ja hi havia format <a href=\"https:\/\/lesquatrebarres.org\/\" data-type=\"link\" data-id=\"https:\/\/lesquatrebarres.org\/\">El Casal Les Quatre Barres<\/a> per\u00f2 &nbsp;nosaltres no el &nbsp;coneix\u00edem en aquella \u00e8poca. &nbsp;M\u00e9s tard an\u00e0vem a les trobades de catalans. Despr\u00e9s, un cop a l&#8217;any, hi havia una trobada que es feia en els Bosques de Palermo. Hi havia molt\u00edssima gent, molt\u00edssima, tots catalans, tots. Era com trobar un trofeu de Catalunya a dins de Buenos Aires.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>I com &nbsp;era aquest vincle inicial amb els que acabaven d\u2019arribar? S\u2019apropaven&nbsp; al Casal o \u00e9reu vosaltres qui els an\u00e0veu a cercar o els acoll\u00edeu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S\u00ed, es feia acolliment. A les f\u00e0briques on treballaven el meu pare i la meva mare el quaranta per cent eren &nbsp;catalans.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Per aix\u00f2 tamb\u00e9 es va poder formar el nou casal Les Quatre Barres, que \u00e9s on estem ara. Ja no hi havia lloc per tenir a tanta gent. Es va comprar un terreny amb diners de tota la gent que formaven part de l\u2019antic.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Explica\u2019ns una mica aquest proc\u00e9s.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"382\" height=\"510\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/front-les-cuatre-barres.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91358 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/front-les-cuatre-barres.webp 382w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/front-les-cuatre-barres-225x300.webp 225w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 382px) 100vw, 382px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 382px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 382\/510;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019actual&nbsp;Casal Les Quatre Barres fou fundat l&#8217;any 1960. Per un grup de catalans i catalanes, que en ser tan nombr\u00f3s no tenien on reunir-se i van decidir comprar un terreny per construir la seva seu. Tot es va fer amb treball en com\u00fa, cadasc\u00fa feia el que sabia, paletes, manyans, lampistes, guixaires, sota la direcci\u00f3 d\u2019un arquitecte catal\u00e0 i quan la feina acabava les dones feien una paella, i des d&#8217;aquella \u00e8poca les continuem fent i s\u00f3n famoses dintre de la nostra comunitat oberta a tothom, \u00e9s la manera que tenim d&#8217;informar i apropar a totes les persones perqu\u00e8 s\u00e0piguen de les nostres activitats, i estimin Catalunya tant com l&#8217;estimem nosaltres.<br><br><strong>Ens has explicat que ets filla de gent treballadora del t\u00e8xtil. Ens pots parlar ara una mica&nbsp; de tu i la teva feina?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jo vaig estudiar, &nbsp;vaig fer tota l&#8217;escola secund\u00e0ria. Quan vaig entrar, com que no sabia gaire&nbsp; geografia ni hist\u00f2ria argentina, em van posar a l&#8217;\u00faltim any de l&#8217;escola prim\u00e0ria. I a partir d&#8217;all\u00e0 ja vaig fer el secundari i despr\u00e9s vaig anar a la universitat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tota la meva &nbsp;vida laboral, des de la joventut he treballat de <em>contadora<\/em> (comptable). &nbsp;Primer en una empresa de computaci\u00f3. I despr\u00e9s ja, quan vaig tenir el tercer fill, vaig deixar de treballar. I em vaig dedicar a ajudar al meu marit que era constructor.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>I el teu marit \u00e9s catal\u00e0 perqu\u00e8 \u00e9s aquell nen amb qui jugaves a casa seva, mentre la teva mare treballava, veritat?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exactament. S\u00ed, s\u00ed. El meu marit, que ara fa 12 anys que va morir. (<em>Li donem les condolences i li fem arribar una abra\u00e7ada ben forta<\/em>).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Aix\u00f2 vol dir que parl\u00e0veu el catal\u00e0 a casa, i que el deveu haver transm\u00e8s al vostres fills i filles.<\/strong>..<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Exactament. Nosaltres, tota la vida! i la mainada tampoc van tenir cap dificultat quan van comen\u00e7ar l&#8217;escola, perqu\u00e8 era com nosaltres. Eren biling\u00fces.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Com \u00e9s que vas entrar a col\u00b7laborar amb el Casal? \u00c9s a dir, com \u00e9s que t&#8217;hi vas implicar?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">M\u2019hi vaig implicar quan va morir la meva mare. Fa 25 anys. &nbsp;Jo estava molt, molt pendent de la meva mare, que ja tenia 89 anys, aleshores no tenia temps d&#8217;implicar-me perqu\u00e8 estava per ella. Llavors, quan va morir, vaig tenir un buit molt gran i&nbsp; vaig comen\u00e7ar a implicar-me en el casal. Primer de tot, el que vaig fer \u00e9s anar a aprendre a escriure catal\u00e0 perqu\u00e8 jo, l&#8217;escola prim\u00e0ria que havia fet a Catalunya era tota en castell\u00e0, era l\u2019\u00e8poca de Franco, aix\u00ed \u00e9s que no sabia escriure b\u00e9 en catal\u00e0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A partir de llavors ja m\u2019hi vaig implicar directament i vam formar una junta perqu\u00e8 el casal,&nbsp; tenia manca de de personal administratiu, perqu\u00e8 tota la gent havia retornat a Catalunya. Era l&#8217;any 2000, quan com sabeu on vam tenir molts problemes econ\u00f2mics aqu\u00ed en el pa\u00eds.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La gent va perdre els diners que tenia en els bancs, els estalvis i llavors, tota la gent jove que hi havia se&#8217;n van anar. Hi havia, doncs, poca gent que s\u2019hi pogu\u00e9s implicar i un grup que ens coneix\u00edem vam formar la nova junta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>I des de llavors hi ha&nbsp;hagut varies dones a les noves juntes?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;S\u00ed, sempre hi han hagut dones perqu\u00e8 la dona \u00e9s la que porta sempre &nbsp;la iniciativa de les coses. La dona \u00e9s com si fos la m\u00e0quina del tren, arranca i tots els dem\u00e9s segueixen, (ho diu afirmant amb el cap amb molta convicci\u00f3).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><br>Anna, i en aquest sentit, creus que &nbsp;ha canviat el rol de les dones particularment dins el casal? Com era en este en aquell moment i com \u00e9s en la actualitat? Qu\u00e8 han anant &nbsp;aportant?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En el casal, sempre les dones han portat com la iniciativa. S\u2019ha mostrat &nbsp;perfectament. No he notat mai que hi hagu\u00e9s alguna difer\u00e8ncia, eh!, entre els homes i les dones, perqu\u00e8 sempre tot es feia entre tots. Perqu\u00e8, no s\u00e9, em sembla que un Casal et dona molta llibertat de moviment. Almenys&nbsp; totes les persones que he parlat ho han sentit aix\u00ed. &nbsp;S\u00ed que ara hi som de ple , perqu\u00e8 cada vegada les dones ens hi infiltrem m\u00e9s en totes les coses &nbsp;que passen. Per tant en els Casals tamb\u00e9 hi som. Jo diria que en el nostre hi som al&nbsp; cinquanta per cent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"563\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.27-1000x563.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91356 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.27-1000x563.jpeg 1000w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.27-300x169.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.27-768x432.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.27-1536x864.jpeg 1536w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-15.59.27-scaled.jpeg 1500w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1000px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1000\/563;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I si van ser moltes dones les que hi eren des del comen\u00e7ament, tamb\u00e9 us dir\u00e9 que moltes participarem en la compra del terreny, i aix\u00f2 son dades que la gent no sap!. Vull nomenar a <strong>Maribel Casablanca,<\/strong> que \u00e9s s\u00f2cia fundadora del Casal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Llavors tamb\u00e9 podeu decidir quins tipus d\u2019actes feu.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c9s clar! I tant!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Teniu en compte fer activitats per altres dones, o per recon\u00e8ixer dones anteriors a vosaltres protagonistes de les migracions o sobre temes semblants ?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tenim v\u00e0ries activitats, una d\u2019elles \u00e9s la coral. Tenim una coral molt bona i &nbsp;la directora \u00e9s filla de catalans. La coral expressa tot l\u2019amor que sentim per Catalunya i les can\u00e7ons s\u00f3n gaireb\u00e9 totes catalanes. La majoria s\u00f3n dones &nbsp;i a la directora li &nbsp;donem tota la llibertat perqu\u00e8 faci el &nbsp;que cregui convenient. No li posem mai cap trava per difondre tot el que \u00e9s la cultura catalana.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Despr\u00e9s tenim un taller literari amb lectures d\u2019obres d\u2019escriptores catalanes. Aquest any hem fet La pla\u00e7a del Diamant de <strong>Merc\u00e8 Rodoreda<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tamb\u00e9 v\u00e0rem llegir-ne un d\u2019<strong>Assumpta Montell\u00e0,<\/strong> que va ser la dona que va fer el lo de Elna. El set\u00e8 cami\u00f3 n\u2019 \u00e9s una, no s\u00e9 si l&#8217;haureu llegit, \u00e9s una hist\u00f2ria sobre els set camions que van portar tot el tresor de la Rep\u00fablica cap a Fran\u00e7a, en la qual explica tots els inconvenients que van haver-hi.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I el tercer i darrer llibre d\u2019aquest any passat ha estat Pa amb xocolata, de <strong>Teresa Roig,<\/strong> que tamb\u00e9 \u00e9s una autora catalana i el llibre ens situa a l\u2019abril del 1936 a Agramunt, a la Terra dels torrons. \u00c9s molt molt bonic aquest llibre, molt bonic. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u00c9s tamb\u00e9 una manera de recordar la gent que va lluitar.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Tenim l&#8217;<a href=\"https:\/\/lesquatrebarres.org\/esplai\/\">Esplai Catal\u00e0<\/a> que est\u00e0 destinat a tota la quitxalla major de 3 anys catalano-parlant o amb un inter\u00e8s per aprendre catal\u00e0. Per participar a l\u2019esplai cal ser membre del casal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ah! I tenim classe de sardanes un cop a la setmana, &nbsp;i tamb\u00e9 s\u00f3n les dones les que venen m\u00e9s a aprendre. La dansa uneix molt!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I , \u00e9s clar! Les classes de catal\u00e0. Penseu que ara aqu\u00ed de catalans i catalanes ja no n\u2019arriben, llavors el que intentem \u00e9s apropar al Casal a les fam\u00edlies que tenen familiars, sobretot filles i fills vivint a Catalunya.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Per exemple, abans de la pand\u00e8mia,&nbsp; ten\u00edem un professor que era catal\u00e0, un noi que s\u2019 havia casat amb una noia argentina i havia vingut aqu\u00ed. Ens donava les classes de catal\u00e0 i&nbsp; la major part de la gent que ten\u00edem se&#8217;n volien anar a viure a Barcelona. I llavors venien al casal a aprendre la&nbsp; llengua.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Per\u00f2 ara aix\u00f2 s&#8217;ha tallat, perqu\u00e8 el professor se&#8217;n va tornar a Catalunya amb la seva fam\u00edlia que va formar aqu\u00ed amb la noia argentina i nom\u00e9s fem classes per &nbsp;zoom quan tenim persones interessades que venen al casal. Tamb\u00e9 derivem gent a &nbsp;l&#8217;Esther Barnet &nbsp;del Casal dels Pa\u00efsos Catalans de La Plata, que tamb\u00e9 fa classes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Continuant amb la selecci\u00f3 d\u2019autores i el fet que les dones han anat guanyant molt espai no solament en la literatura, sin\u00f3 en el pensament. Hi ha hagut al Casal algun projecte que vinculi el tema de la perspectiva de g\u00e8nere o de el feminisme, donant-li a les&nbsp; dones un particular protagonisme?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S\u00ed. S\u00ed. Sempre fem un acte relacionat amb aquest tema i \u00e9s quan parlem de totes aquestes coses. El 8 de mar\u00e7, el dia internacional de les dones, fem una reuni\u00f3 al casal i convidem a totes les dones que vinguin i que puguin dir-hi la seva i posar-nos al dia de la situaci\u00f3 de les dones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Anna, assenyalaves que disposeu d\u2019una molt bona biblioteca catalana&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La tieta del meu marit era fil\u00f2loga. Ah! I catalanista fins a la medul\u00b7la. Directora d&#8217;una escola de Barcelona, ella va formar l&#8217;escola Sadako, amb dues noies m\u00e9s. No s\u00e9 si la coneixeu&#8230; Es va formar per a poder donar classes de catal\u00e0.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quan es va jubilar va comen\u00e7ar a venir molt i era la que ens donava classes de catal\u00e0 i &nbsp;ens explicava hist\u00f2ries. Jo a trav\u00e9s d&#8217;ella he conegut i apr\u00e9s molt molt i m&#8217;he fet molt catalanista. I ho hem de saber transmetre en el nostre casal. Per qu\u00e8 volem la independ\u00e8ncia? a vegades la gent no ho ent\u00e9n. Cal saber-ho explicar ben b\u00e9 i llavors s\u00ed que ho entenen. Quan els hi expliques els motius, llavors ens entenen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Aix\u00ed si la independ\u00e8ncia de Catalunya \u00e9s un tema de debat al Casal, &nbsp;vol dir que parleu de de l&#8217;actualitat pol\u00edtica, feu xerrades sovint?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery aligncenter has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-1 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"1000\" data-id=\"91357\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.43.18-750x1000.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91357 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.43.18-750x1000.jpeg 750w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.43.18-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.43.18.jpeg 768w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 750px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 750\/1000;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1000\" height=\"750\" data-id=\"91363\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/car3-2-1000x750.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91363 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/car3-2-1000x750.webp 1000w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/car3-2-300x225.webp 300w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/car3-2-768x576.webp 768w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/car3-2.webp 1024w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1000px) 100vw, 1000px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1000px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1000\/750;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"834\" height=\"703\" data-id=\"91362\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/diada-1.webp\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91362 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/diada-1.webp 834w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/diada-1-300x253.webp 300w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/diada-1-768x647.webp 768w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 834px) 100vw, 834px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 834px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 834\/703;\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Aquest any no ho hem fet, s\u00ed que ho f\u00e8iem abans. Hi havia dos cops a l&#8217;any que explic\u00e0vem tot el que estava passant a Catalunya. Esperem que ens hi tornem a posar de veritat. Tamb\u00e9 commemorem l&#8217;11 de setembre i fem xerrades.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I mentrestant ho seguim transmetent. Un cop al mes fem una paella oberta a totes les persones que vulguin, a vegades arribem a les 150 o 160 persones. I llavors fem la promoci\u00f3 de tot per fer entendre tot el que volem transmetre sobre Catalunya i sobre la llibertat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Deies abans que venen persones descendents de fam\u00edlies catalanes, per\u00f2 si feu aquestes activitats obertes, potser tamb\u00e9 deu venir gent del barri o gent que est\u00e0 interessada en altres temes, per viatjar o per la cultura&#8230;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S\u00ed. I tant!&nbsp; Per exemple, fa poc va venir un senyor que volia llogar un sal\u00f3 per celebrar el seu aniversari. Ens va explicar que l\u2019any 2019 va ser a Barcelona i Catalunya i que es va enamorar de la ciutat i del pa\u00eds. Aix\u00ed que quan va buscar per internet on fer la festa d\u2019aniversari i va trobar aqu\u00ed a Castelar el Casal Catal\u00e0 es va dir a si mateix, &#8220;Aix\u00f2 \u00e9s lo meu.&#8221; Perqu\u00e8 aqu\u00ed hi ha l&#8217;ess\u00e8ncia de Catalunya, que \u00e9s lo que a mi em va agradar tant\u201d. I quan va entrar al nostre sal\u00f3 i va veure tots els p\u00f2sters i objectes que tenim en va quedar tan satisfet que va dir, &#8220;A partir d&#8217;ara em far\u00e9 soci i vindr\u00e9 sempre, perqu\u00e8&nbsp; Catalunya la porto a dins des de 2019\u201d . &nbsp;S\u00ed, aquesta \u00e9s una altra via, la de gent que ha conegut i estima Catalunya i la seva cultura.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-gallery has-nested-images columns-default is-cropped wp-block-gallery-2 is-layout-flex wp-block-gallery-is-layout-flex\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"1000\" data-id=\"91359\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.45.08-750x1000.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91359 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.45.08-750x1000.jpeg 750w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.45.08-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.45.08-768x1024.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/whatsapp-image-2026-02-04-at-17.45.08.jpeg 960w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 750px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 750\/1000;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"1000\" data-id=\"91360\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/sant-jordi-2025.jpg-750x1000.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91360 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/sant-jordi-2025.jpg-scaled.jpeg 750w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/sant-jordi-2025.jpg-225x300.jpeg 225w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/sant-jordi-2025.jpg-768x1024.jpeg 768w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/sant-jordi-2025.jpg-1152x1536.jpeg 1152w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 750px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 750\/1000;\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Despr\u00e9s tenim un taller de tangos, una <em>milonga<\/em>. Venen cada divendres i ho posen tot a les xarxes socials i llavors surt al fons la Sagrada Fam\u00edlia i altres indrets de Catalunya mentre estan ballant. \u00c9s molt bonic i agradable. A la gent els hi encanta aix\u00f2. \u00c9s una forma que tenim per a que vagin coneixent Catalunya, \u00e9s clar!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Com que aquesta entrevista \u00e9s per a La Independent, l\u2019agencia de not\u00edcies feministes de Catalunya, vols dir algun missatge a les nostres lectores i als nostres lectors?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La dona \u00e9s fonamental en tot, a banda d\u2019all\u00f2 que es diu que sempre que hi ha una gran dona darrere un gran home, en realitat \u00e9s la dona la que ho fa anar tot. Sempre ha estat aix\u00ed, per\u00f2 actualment estem disposades a aconseguir-ho del tot, a mostrar el que sempre hi ha hagut darrera. Aix\u00f2 \u00e9s molt positiu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>En la vostra transmissi\u00f3 de valors culturals de Catalunya i del que representa, la vostra tasca tamb\u00e9 deu estar &nbsp;lligada a un tipus de societat avan\u00e7ada, oi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I tant! \u00c9s el que &nbsp;es defensa des d&#8217;aqu\u00ed pol\u00edticament parlant, no? I aix\u00f2 tamb\u00e9 significa una societat amb drets plens per les dones.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image aligncenter size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1170\" height=\"878\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/el-tio-edited-1.jpeg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-91450 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1170px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 1170\/878;aspect-ratio:1.302103201851428\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/el-tio-edited-1.jpeg 1170w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/el-tio-edited-1-300x225.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/el-tio-edited-1-1000x750.jpeg 1000w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/el-tio-edited-1-768x576.jpeg 768w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1170px) 100vw, 1170px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/figure>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Escrit per Sandra Miguez i Tona Gusi La urbanitzaci\u00f3 de la ciutat de Castelar est\u00e0 emmarcada en la formaci\u00f3 del Gran Buenos Aires, des de 1930. 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