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Per Pascal Beucker<\/em>, sinpermiso<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Centrar-se en el fet social ha funcionat, diu la l\u00edder de Die Linke, Ines Schwerdtner. Una entrevista sobre la humilitat, l\u2019amabilitat i el futur, realitzada a Ines Schwerdtner dies abans de les eleccions. Entrevista per a la revista Taz<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pascal Beucker: Senyora Schwerdtner, vost\u00e8 \u00e9s presidenta de Die Linke des de la tardor passada. Ha apr\u00e8s alguna cosa sobre pol\u00edtica que no sabia abans?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ines Schwerdtner:<\/strong> M’he tornat una mica m\u00e9s humil. Quan anem porta a porta cada dia o estem en un estand de campanya electoral, ens adonem realment del repte que suposa tornar a despertar en la gent el desig de donar suport a Die Linke.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Per\u00f2 si mirem les enquestes, podria haver estat pitjor per a vost\u00e8, oi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> Cert. Per\u00f2 ha estat i segueix sent una gran aventura. Des de principis d\u2019any, \u00e9s com un somni febril, en el bon sentit de la paraula. L\u2019optimisme finalment ha comen\u00e7at a guanyar terreny dins del partit. El que Jan van Aken<\/strong> i jo vam considerar a l\u2019octubre quan vam assumir els nostres c\u00e0rrecs realment ha funcionat: centrar-se sistem\u00e0ticament en el fet social. Per descomptat, tamb\u00e9 hem tingut una mica de sort. \u00c9s obvi que hem aconseguit arribar a un gran nombre de persones que no volen acceptar, sense fer res, el gir cap a la dreta de la societat i del Parlament.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

El Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung<\/em> adverteix als seus lectors que el SPD, Els Verds, el BSW i Die Linke podrien obtenir junts una majoria al Parlament en les eleccions federals. Olaf Scholz podria llavors fer un \u201ccop mestre\u201d i negociar per obtenir la majoria a la cancelleria gr\u00e0cies a aquesta coalici\u00f3. Estaria disposada a participar-hi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> Aix\u00f2 va m\u00e9s enll\u00e0 de tot el que pugui imaginar. Les persones que actualment fan campanya per Die Linke no ho fan per formar qualsevol coalici\u00f3, sin\u00f3 per fer sentir demandes molt espec\u00edfiques, com el l\u00edmit als lloguers i la reducci\u00f3 del cost de la vida. I perqu\u00e8 som antifeixistes de confian\u00e7a. Aix\u00f2 \u00e9s el que est\u00e0 en joc ara mateix.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Quin efecte t\u00e9 veure un partit que ja es donava per mort trobant-se de sobte amb q\u00fcestions relacionades amb una coalici\u00f3?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> Em sembla divertit, per\u00f2 no em preocupa. Parlem seriosament quan diem: \u201cAltres volen governar, nosaltres volem canviar les coses!\u201d I tamb\u00e9: \u201cEl mur de contenci\u00f3 som nosaltres!\u201d. Aix\u00f2 vol dir que ens neguem a fer pol\u00edtica a costa de la gent. Som l\u2019\u00fanic partit que s\u2019oposa sistem\u00e0ticament, per exemple, a la campanya de desprestigi portada a terme en els debats televisius contra els beneficiaris de l\u2019assist\u00e8ncia social o els refugiats. Mentre el SPD i Els Verds discuteixen sobre qui podr\u00e0 governar amb Friedrich Merz<\/strong>, nosaltres defensem el dret d\u2019asil. Realment, no tinc cap necessitat d\u2019intervenir en les travesses sobre la coalici\u00f3.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A difer\u00e8ncia del seu copresident Jan van Aken, vost\u00e8 hauria volgut evitar la divisi\u00f3 de l\u2019ala \u201cconservadora d\u2019esquerres\u201d al voltant de Sahra Wagenknecht. Encara hi est\u00e0 d\u2019acord?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> S\u00ed, perqu\u00e8 una divisi\u00f3 sempre debilita el moviment. Per\u00f2 des del vot del BSW amb l\u2019AfD al Bundestag, tothom hauria d\u2019haver ent\u00e8s que separar-se dels qui van votar d\u2019aquesta manera va ser la decisi\u00f3 correcta.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Die Linke est\u00e0 experimentant actualment una impressionant aflu\u00e8ncia de membres i compta ara amb m\u00e9s de 81.000 afiliats. Creu que aix\u00f2 hauria estat possible si Wagenknecht i els seus partidaris encara fossin al partit?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> No.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jan van Aken qualifica el BSW com el \u201cpartit del Kremlin\u201d. Hi est\u00e0 d\u2019acord?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> B\u00e9, jo ho dic menys sovint que ell. Aix\u00f2 es deu al fet que no crec que aix\u00f2 caracteritzi el BSW de manera rellevant. Per a mi, l\u2019aspecte central \u00e9s que es tracta d\u2019un partit autoritari dirigit per una sola persona, que no t\u00e9 res a veure amb la democr\u00e0cia i el cercle fundador del qual ha abandonat les posicions de classe. A m\u00e9s, el BSW mant\u00e9 una relaci\u00f3 acr\u00edtica amb Putin <\/strong>i mostra poca empatia cap al poble ucra\u00efn\u00e8s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Qu\u00e8 far\u00e0 amb els seus molts membres nous? L\u2019edat mitjana \u00e9s d\u2019uns 28 anys, m\u00e9s de la meitat s\u00f3n dones, moltes tenen estudis universitaris. Aix\u00f2 podria ser un xoc cultural per a moltes de les seves federacions regionals, especialment a l\u2019est.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> El bo \u00e9s que s\u2019incorporen immediatament a la campanya electoral. Els antics i nous membres aprenen aix\u00ed a con\u00e8ixer-se en la pr\u00e0ctica. Els m\u00e9s grans s\u2019impregnen de l\u2019entusiasme dels nous i els transmeten la seva experi\u00e8ncia. Tinc la impressi\u00f3 que aquesta interacci\u00f3 \u00e9s molt beneficiosa per a tothom. Per descomptat, estem pensant en qu\u00e8 fer despr\u00e9s del dia de les eleccions. Com transformar l\u2019energia actual en una estructura organitzada que tamb\u00e9 funcioni m\u00e9s enll\u00e0 de la campanya electoral? De fet, \u00e9s una tasca gegantina.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ha declarat que el seu copresident Jan van Aken i vost\u00e8 nom\u00e9s percebran volunt\u00e0riament l\u2019ingr\u00e9s mitj\u00e0 d\u2019un empleat a Alemanya, \u00e9s a dir, 2.850 euros nets al mes. Creu que aix\u00f2 hauria de ser un exemple?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> S\u00ed, i ho he dit a molta altra gent tamb\u00e9. Realment sento que hi ha un moviment dins del partit ara mateix. A partir de la legislatura vinent, tindrem un grup parlamentari completament nou. Si els nostres veterans se sumen a nosaltres, m\u2019alegrar\u00e9. Per\u00f2, si no, hi haur\u00e0 prou altres diputats que es limitaran volunt\u00e0riament a un ingr\u00e9s mitj\u00e0. Per cert, els diputats de Die Linke ja estan donant molt.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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Segons les enquestes, Die Linke t\u00e9 bones possibilitats de tornar al Bundestag. Per\u00f2 encara no hi ha res segur. T\u00e9 un pla B en cas que no funcioni?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> B\u00e9, el nostre pla A \u00e9s superar clarament el llindar del 5%. El pla B \u00e9s guanyar almenys tres escons per vot directe a les circumscripcions electorals, cosa que garantiria el nostre retorn al Bundestag. Aquesta ha estat la nostra doble estrat\u00e8gia des del principi. Les perspectives s\u00f3n molt bones, tant per al pla A com per al pla B.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Independentment del resultat de les eleccions, ha anunciat una renovaci\u00f3 program\u00e0tica de Die Linke. Qu\u00e8 significa aix\u00f2?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> El nostre programa principal data de 2011. Crec que segueix sent molt rellevant en l\u00ednies generals. Per\u00f2 el m\u00f3n ha evolucionat des de llavors. Per tant, volem actualitzar el programa abans de finals de 2027.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ha recomanat al seu partit que mostri una \u201camabilitat revolucion\u00e0ria\u201d. No \u00e9s dif\u00edcil de mantenir a vegades?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Schwerdtner:<\/strong> S\u00ed, per descomptat. Per\u00f2 precisament en aquests moments \u00e9s important mantenir-se amable. Aix\u00f2 pot fer que algunes persones reflexionin. I aix\u00f2 ja \u00e9s una vict\u00f2ria.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ines Schwerdtner<\/strong>* (nascuda a Werdau, Sax\u00f2nia, va cr\u00e9ixer a Hamburg i va estudiar a Berl\u00edn i Frankfurt del Main. De 2020 a 2023, va ser editora en cap de l\u2019edici\u00f3 alemanya de la revista pol\u00edtica Jacobin. Des d\u2019octubre de 2024, \u00e9s copresidenta de Die Linke juntament amb Jan van Aken.<\/em>)<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Font:<\/strong> Revista Taz
Tem\u00e0tica:<\/strong> Alemanya, eleccions, esquerra alternativa.
Traducci\u00f3:<\/strong> Enrique Garc\u00eda<\/strong>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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