{"id":73158,"date":"2023-04-13T23:18:00","date_gmt":"2023-04-13T21:18:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/?p=73158"},"modified":"2023-04-14T00:16:06","modified_gmt":"2023-04-13T22:16:06","slug":"dones-que-lluiten-histories-que-inspiren-josi-hernansaez-gibert","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/en\/dones-que-lluiten-histories-que-inspiren-josi-hernansaez-gibert\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cDones que lluiten: hist\u00f2ries que inspiren&#8221;. Josi Hernans\u00e1ez Gibert\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Josi Hernans\u00e1ez Gibert, t\u00e9 70 anys. Es defineix com a mare, \u00e0via i pertany a una extensa familia d\u2019amistats. \u00c9s v\u00eddua des de fa 7 anys, viu a Barcelona, li agrada molt con\u00e8ixer a les persones. \u00c9s emp\u00e0tica i compromesa amb la transformaci\u00f3 de la societat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe title=\"Entrevista Josi Hernans\u00e1ez Gilbert. Especial &quot;Dones que lluiten: hist\u00f2ries que inspiren\u201d\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/zFgaj6zrs4U?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" allowfullscreen src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" data-load-mode=\"0\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Va estudiar biologia a la UAB (Universitat Aut\u00f2noma de Barcelona), tamb\u00e9 un postgrau en Lideratge Femen\u00ed a la Universitat Pompeu Fabra (UPF)&nbsp; perqu\u00e8 la igualtat&nbsp; i &nbsp;l\u2019equitat entre les persones es cabdal. Pertany a diferents associacions de dones, en aquest moment a ASODAME BPW. Es fundadora de la xarxa <em>agima <\/em>el 2008&nbsp;i tamb\u00e9 de l\u2019associacio Wo+Men\u2019s Progress que es basa en inspirar, conversar i transformar entre persones de qualsevol pensament.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">De mare i pare amb empresa pr\u00f2pia, mestra i emprenedora, <strong>Josi Hernans\u00e1ez Gibert, <\/strong>reconeix que ha viscut una vida diferent ja que \u201cel tenir una mare empres\u00e0ria feia que la visi\u00f3 de equitat fos m\u00e9s palesa a casa pel que fa al meu pare i la meva mare, ja que tots dos movien els diners i prenien decisions igualment, tot i que realment els rols estaven clars\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Quines s\u00f3n les discriminacions que identifiques al llarg de la teva vida per la teva condici\u00f3 de g\u00e8nere, identitat, edat?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mira al llarg de la meva vida una discriminaci\u00f3 molt dura, molt clara, la veritat \u00e9s que he tingut la sort de no viure-la. Jo he viscut un \u00e0mbit, l&#8217;ensenyament, 20 anys on s\u00f3n iguals els homes i les dones en el sentit de la feina, de la responsabilitat. S\u00ed que \u00e9s veritat que els alts c\u00e0rrecs eren molt m\u00e9s homes que dones, encara que jo primer vaig comen\u00e7ar treballant a Bet\u00e0nia-Patmos fundada per les germanes <strong>Omedes<\/strong> i despr\u00e9s vaig estar un temps a Santa Clara School tamb\u00e9 fundada per <strong>Isabel de Le\u00f3n<\/strong>. Per\u00f2 la meva traject\u00f2ria professional com a professora, sens dubte \u00e9s l&#8217;Escola Thau que la va fundar <strong>Maria Rosa Farr\u00e9<\/strong> <strong>i Escofet<\/strong> . Si ens hi fixem b\u00e9, en l&#8217;espai de l&#8217;ensenyament d\u2019aquella \u00e8poca tot s\u00f3n dones, era una resposta de dones compromeses front a tota l&#8217;escola d\u2019ordres religioses que hi havia a l&#8217;\u00e8poca.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Crec que mai s\u00f3n reflectides, no existeixen i si estan reflectides, per exemple, als programes de televisi\u00f3 doncs pregunten poc l\u2019 opini\u00f3 de les persones grans, o s\u00f3n preguntes molt planeres. Es com si la seva opini\u00f3 no tingues valor quan les persones grans tenen el valor primer de la saviesa i despr\u00e9s de l\u2019experi\u00e8ncia. Una de les coses importants que m\u2019ha donat&nbsp; aquesta visi\u00f3 de l\u2019edat \u00e8s la profunditat i el relativitzar, tot es pot aprofundir i solucionar, a m\u00e9s \u00e9s una etapa d\u2019una creativitat i d\u2019una lucidesa ja que mires amb m\u00e9s perspectiva.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jo he viscut que els homes eren majors d&#8217;edat als 18 i les dones als 21. Les dones havien de demanar perm\u00eds al marit per obrir un compte bancari. Les dones f\u00e8iem un servei social i el homes el servei militar. Les coses en aquests anys han canviat molt i encara hem d&#8217;aconseguir molt m\u00e9s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8211; <strong>Com a dona, quina \u00e9s la teva opini\u00f3 sobre el reconeixement o no a la teva tasca al llarg de la vida, <\/strong>  <strong>en l&#8217;acc\u00e9s i les retribucions econ\u00f2miques?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Quan jo vaig arribar a l\u2019Escola Thau la retribuci\u00f3 era la mateixa d&#8217;homes i dones, per\u00f2 amb anterioritat hi havia coses diferents. En tots aquests anys hi ha hagut verdaderament casos flagrants de discriminaci\u00f3 salarial per ser una dona en un mateix c\u00e0rrec.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019empresariat hauria de ser els primers a dir \u201caix\u00f2 no es pot consentir perqu\u00e8 \u00e9s injust\u201d. &nbsp;Aquestes pr\u00e0ctiques fan que les persones treballin en un ambient de descontent i aix\u00f2 mai aporta una millora a l&#8217;empresa que hauria d\u2019actuar amb equitat i \u00e8tica.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8211; <strong>Quines difer\u00e8ncies veus entre fer-se gran, envellir en un home i en una dona.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les principals diferencies que veig&nbsp; es que a l\u2019home se l\u2019admet que va envellint des que \u00e9s jove perqu\u00e8 pot ser calb, gras, etc en&nbsp; canvi, la dona &nbsp;s\u2019ha de mantenir jove molt m\u00e9s temps.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Per l\u2019altra part, la dona es prepara m\u00e9s per envellir perqu\u00e8 crea una xarxa d\u2019amistats que far\u00e0 que la puguin ajudar. Respecte a les tecnologies, en general les dones de la meva edat &nbsp;tenen una mancan\u00e7a d\u2019aix\u00f2.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A la feina veig moltes dones que es queden sense treball als 55 anys, que no es cap edat gran, els hi costa molt\u00edssim trobar-ne. Per tant, envellir es una q\u00fcesti\u00f3 en des\u00fas , es&nbsp; com si la gent hagu\u00e9s de mantenir-se jove tota la vida.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8211; <strong>Com es veuen reflectides les adultes grans -majors de 60 anys- als mitjans de comunicaci\u00f3?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ara tot ho puc mirar des d\u2019un prisma molt m\u00e9s obert,&nbsp; puc comprendre la vida de tothom. Per qu\u00e8? Perqu\u00e8 al llarg de la vida has vist coses que tu censuraves, jutjaves i aix\u00f2 si es digu\u00e9s en els mitjans de comunicaci\u00f3 la gent jove podria veure les coses d\u2019una altra manera. Ens estem perdent molt\u00edssim l\u2019opini\u00f3 de la gent gran<a>, <\/a>que aportaria una gran quantitat de saviesa de vida.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image alignleft size-large is-resized\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/2-josi-hernansaez--1000x750.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-73160\" width=\"492\" height=\"369\" srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/2-josi-hernansaez--1000x750.jpg 1000w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/2-josi-hernansaez--300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/2-josi-hernansaez--768x576.jpg 768w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/2-josi-hernansaez--1536x1152.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/2-josi-hernansaez--2048x1536.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/04\/2-josi-hernansaez--scaled.jpg 1500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 492px) 100vw, 492px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Com afrontes l&#8217;actual etapa de la teva vida als 70 anys?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fant\u00e0stica, primer perqu\u00e8 d\u2019amor estic b\u00e9, no en el sentit de tenir parella sin\u00f3 amor en la quantitat de persones que m\u2019han demostrat el que m\u2019estimen. De salut em trobo be i econ\u00f2micament estable, tot \u00e9s important.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Estic il\u00b7lusionada, segueixo en la xarxa <em>agima<\/em> per mirar sempre com puc ajudar a les dones que expressin tot el seu envalorament. Quan diuen l\u2019<em>empowerment<\/em> (\u201cempoderament\u201d en angl\u00e8s) &nbsp;\u00e9s&nbsp; un concepte absolutament mascul\u00ed. Les dones t\u00e9nen el poder de la vida, el que hem de mirar \u00e9s com posar-nos en valor. &nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">L\u2019energia femenina \u00e9s una energia de valors i de vida&nbsp; i l\u2019energia masculina \u00e9s una energia de poder i de treball.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">La transformaci\u00f3 de la societat vindr\u00e0 per un poder que aporti valors i un treball que em faci sentir la meva vida<a>. <\/a>Ser\u00e0 magn\u00edfic que les dones arribin a llocs de poder per aportar millors valors. Aix\u00f2 per mi es imprescindible. Crec que el futur va per aqu\u00ed.&nbsp;S\u2019ha vist en la pand\u00e8mia com els pa\u00efsos liderats per dones han trobat millors respostes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n<style>html[dir=rtl] .wpml-language-switcher-block .wpml-ls-dropdown ul li.wp-block-navigation-submenu .wp-block-navigation-submenu__toggle img{margin-left:12px}html[dir=rtl] .wpml-language-switcher-block .wpml-ls-dropdown ul li.wp-block-navigation-submenu ul.isHorizontal li{text-align:right}html[dir=rtl] .wpml-language-switcher-block .wpml-ls-dropdown ul li.wp-block-navigation-submenu ul.isHorizontal li a img{margin-left:12px}.wpml-language-switcher-block{display:flex;box-sizing:border-box;width:100% !important}.wpml-language-switcher-block>.wp-block-navigation-item,.wpml-language-switcher-block>.wp-block-navigation-item>div{display:flex;width:100% !important}.wpml-language-switcher-block .wp-block-navigation__container{background:unset 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