{"id":65014,"date":"2017-05-11T19:31:50","date_gmt":"2017-05-11T17:31:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/xile-les-ferides-es-tancarien-amb-mes-participacio-femenina-en-el-proces-constitucional-2\/"},"modified":"2017-05-11T19:31:50","modified_gmt":"2017-05-11T17:31:50","slug":"xile-les-ferides-es-tancarien-amb-mes-participacio-femenina-en-el-proces-constitucional-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/en\/xile-les-ferides-es-tancarien-amb-mes-participacio-femenina-en-el-proces-constitucional-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Xile. Les ferides es tancarien amb m\u00e9s participaci\u00f3 femenina en el proc\u00e9s constitucional"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"jfdefaulttext\">There are no translations available.<\/div>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-33523 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 133px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 133\/179;margin: 9px auto; vertical-align: middle; display: block;\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.1.JPG\" alt=\"MaEugenia Hirmas.1\" width=\"133\" height=\"179\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.1.JPG 284w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.1-224x300.jpg 224w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 133px) 100vw, 133px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">La Independent va entrevistar a Maria Eugenia Hirmas, soci\u00f2loga que ha dedicat tota la seva vida a lluitar per la igualtat de g\u00e8nere especialment en temps dif\u00edcils de la dictadura d&#8217; Augusto Pinochet.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Sota una aparen\u00e7a fr\u00e0gil, aquesta dona amaga la fortalesa de la personalitat d&#8217;una dona lluitadora. Aquesta soci\u00f2loga xilena ha estat a Barcelona i durant l&#8217;entrevista ha explicat el proc\u00e9s electoral al qual estan convocades les xilenes i els xilens al novembre pr\u00f2xim. &#8220;\u00c9s urgent molta m\u00e9s participaci\u00f3 de les dones per tenir una millor Constituci\u00f3 que ens ajudi a tancar ferides del passat&#8221;, comenta <strong style=\"font-size: 13.3333px; text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Maria Eugenia Hirmas<\/span><\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Les pr\u00f2ximes eleccions encara no es faran amb la nova constituci\u00f3 per\u00f2 el proc\u00e9s de renovaci\u00f3 est\u00e0 en marxa. En la seva opini\u00f3, les experi\u00e8ncies internacionals de pa\u00efsos que fan la transici\u00f3 a la democr\u00e0cia expliquen que la igualtat de drets ha estat m\u00e9s efectiva quan la participaci\u00f3 de les dones ha estat m\u00e9s important.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">&#8220;Si la participaci\u00f3 en debats com el constitucional a Xile nom\u00e9s es fan a trav\u00e9s dels partits pol\u00edtics la influ\u00e8ncia b\u00e9 marcada per la majoria masculina, afirma. Si nom\u00e9s aquesta es dona a trav\u00e9s dels moviments socials \u00e9s fluixa&#8221;. En la seva opini\u00f3, la pres\u00e8ncia de m\u00e9s dones en els partits pol\u00edtics i, tamb\u00e9, en moviments socials \u00e9s fonamental per tenir una societat m\u00e9s equilibrada, amb millor conviv\u00e8ncia, menys individualista i m\u00e9s solid\u00e0ria.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 13.3333px; text-align: left;\">Mar\u00eda Eugenia Hirmas ha estat a Barcelona acompanyant al seu marit, l&#8217;exministre <strong>Sergio Bitar,<\/strong> que ha estat convidat per Casa Am\u00e8rica a parlar de la transici\u00f3 i per la Fundaci<span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 13.3333px; text-align: left;\">\u00f3<\/span> Roca Gallery a dissertar sobre els problemes de l&#8217;aigua dels que n&#8217;\u00e9s un bon especialista.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-33524\" style=\"margin: 9px auto; vertical-align: middle; display: block;\" src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.JPG\" alt=\"MaEugenia Hirmas\" width=\"300\" height=\"231\" srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.JPG 743w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas-300x231.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 8pt;\">A la fundaci<span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; text-align: left;\">\u00f3<\/span>\u00a0<span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; text-align: left;\">Roca Gallery, abans de la entrevista. Teresa Carreras i Maria Eugenia Hirmas.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Vost\u00e8 ha treballat molt amb la presidenta Bachelet. Les enquestes no donen bons auguris al seu partit en les eleccions del novembre. Qu\u00e8 ha fallat?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">\u00c9s cert que hi ha un problema de gesti\u00f3. De nomenaments de gent que no tenia tanta experi\u00e8ncia com pens\u00e0vem. Amb aix\u00f2 de no nombrar a la gent que t\u00e9 m\u00e9s experi\u00e8ncia perqu\u00e8 eren els mateixos que ja hi havia hagut en el primer mandat de <strong>Michelle Bachelet<\/strong> la gesti\u00f3 no ha estat correcte i per aix\u00f2 hi est\u00e0 havent tanta cr\u00edtica a l&#8217;avaluaci\u00f3 del govern la Presidenta Bachelet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Mar\u00eda Eugenia Hirma ha estat directora de l&#8217;Area Sociocultural de la Presid\u00e8ncia, nomenada per la Presidenta Michelle Bachelet, durant els anys 2007-2010. Actualment forma part de diverses fundacions culturals i de g\u00e8nere a Xile, com, per exemple, Fundaci\u00f3n Comunidad Mujer, la Fundaci\u00f3n ANAR que es dedica a protegir a nens i nenes en risc d&#8217;exclusi\u00f3. I tamb\u00e9 \u00e9s membre del directori d&#8217;una de les cooperatives m\u00e9s grans de Xile que s&#8217;ocupa de temes d&#8217;educaci\u00f3 i cultura, COPEUG, i ella est\u00e0 amb grups de dones.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Quin va ser el seu rol en grups de dones durant la dictadura?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Jo en aquells moments ja estava casada i tenia tres fills. El meu marit, que va ser ministre amb el president Allende, despr\u00e9s del cop d&#8217;estat va ser deportat a tres camps de concentraci\u00f3 i en les presons de Pinochet, durant catorze mesos. Durant l&#8217;etapa Allende jo estava implicada en el programa de donar mig litre de llet al dia als menor de quinze anys. Despr\u00e9s del cop d&#8217;estat em van amb amena\u00e7ar dient que em deixarien sense feina. Per\u00f2 com que el programa estava patrocinat per la Fundaci\u00f3 Ford i a la dictadura li interessava legitimar-se internacionalment em vaig poder quedar fins al final.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">I com van treballar pel benestar de les dones en aquells moments dif\u00edcils?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">El passaport del meu marit estava marcat amb una &#8220;L&#8221; com a perill\u00f3s i ens vam haver d&#8217;exiliar a Vene\u00e7uela. Per aix\u00f2 em sap tan de greu el que est\u00e0 passant en aquest pa\u00eds ve\u00ed. En aquells moments ser home era for\u00e7a m\u00e9s perill\u00f3s que ser dona, encara que n&#8217;hi va haver moltes de detingudes, torturades i assassinades, tamb\u00e9.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Com que les dones ens pod\u00edem moure m\u00e9s que els homes ens vam organitzar i \u00e9rem les que f\u00e8iem les cues per anar a veure als nostres presos. Ens vam organitzar en el moviment &#8220;Ollas comunes&#8221;. En els barris la gent s&#8217;ajuntava per combatre la dictadura. Despr\u00e9s tamb\u00e9 ens vam organitzar en un moviment que es deia &#8220;Comprando Juntas&#8221;, dones que intent\u00e0vem fer grans compres perqu\u00e8 els productes fossin m\u00e9s barats i aix\u00ed poder subsistir.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Tamb\u00e9 ens vam organitzar entorn de la defensa dels drets humans i, naturalment, els drets de les dones que els contempl\u00e0vem com a drets humans. La dictadura amb aix\u00f2 va ser sempre molt conservadora i tancada. Com deia van haver-hi moltes dones detingudes i la dictadura mai es va preocupar de respectar-les com a dones.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-33525 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 300px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 300\/229;margin: 9px auto; vertical-align: middle; display: block;\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.2.JPG\" alt=\"MaEugenia Hirmas.2\" width=\"300\" height=\"229\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.2.JPG 419w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/MaEugenia_Hirmas.2-300x229.jpg 300w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Com col\u00b7laborava vost\u00e8 des de l&#8217;exili vene\u00e7ol\u00e0?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Jo era soci\u00f2loga i a Vene\u00e7uela vaig fer un postgrau sobre comunicaci\u00f3. Jo em vaig poder encarregar amb un grup d&#8217;estudiants d&#8217;anar gravant la televisi\u00f3 i d&#8217;analitzar la cobertura que la televisi\u00f3 de la dictadura donava als diferents actors pol\u00edtics. Tenir aquesta informaci\u00f3 era important perqu\u00e8 ens an\u00e0vem acostant al plebiscit de finals dels vuitanta i aix\u00ed vam poder desmuntar tota la propaganda de la dictadura contra les dones. Quan vaig poder tornar a Xile amb la meva fam\u00edlia em vaig adonar que al meu pa\u00eds an\u00e0vem molt endarrerits pel que fa al reconeixement dels drets de les dones.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">A quines conclusions v\u00e0reu arribar?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Vam poder denunciar que Pinochet sempre dibuixava a les dones a casa, en un paper secundari, servint al marit o als nens. Les dones nom\u00e9s sortien treballant quan es tractava de parlar de l&#8217;exportaci\u00f3 de l&#8217;agricultura. Despr\u00e9s de la recollida de pomes es veien les dones en l\u00ednia per\u00f2, curiosament, tenien prohibit parlar entre elles. Tot aix\u00f2 ho vam denunciar.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">El missatge que transmetia era profundament conservador. Recordo que una vegada els estudiants van parlar amb Luc\u00eda Iriarte, la dona de Pinochet. I els hi va dir &#8221; No s\u00e9 perqu\u00e8 estan preocupades aquestes dones. Segur que enlloc de preocupar-se pels seus fills estan ocupades en altres coses com voler treballar&#8221;.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Ja durant la transici\u00f3 vaig formar part de les 12 dones que integr\u00e0vem el Servicio Nacional de la Mujer. Despr\u00e9s ens vam poder organitzar com a Concertaci\u00f3n Nacional de Mujeres para la Democracia i vam aconseguir coses importants, malgrat que vam ser dels \u00faltims pa\u00efsos occidentals a accedir al divorci. Vam aconseguir acabar amb la denominaci\u00f3 de fills il\u00b7leg\u00edtim, vam canviar la situaci\u00f3 laboral de les dones, vam acabar amb els c\u00e0stigs per adulteri i concubinat. Durant la dictadura la situaci\u00f3 era terriblement desigual.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Despr\u00e9s amb els dos gabinets de la Presidenta Bachelet la situaci\u00f3 de la dona ha millorat molt. Encara hem de treballar m\u00e9s perqu\u00e8 Xile \u00e9s un dels 6 o 7 pa\u00efsos de la regi\u00f3 que encara no s&#8217;ha despenalitzat l&#8217;avortament terap\u00e8utic i, en fer-se de forma clandestina hi ha molta mortalitat materna. Es calcula que a Xile hi ha uns 80.000 avortaments l&#8217;any tots clandestins i en condicions de risc per la mare i per la persona que ajuda en aquest proc\u00e9s.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: 'trebuchet ms', geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There are no translations available. \u00a0 La Independent va entrevistar a Maria Eugenia Hirmas, soci\u00f2loga que ha dedicat tota la seva vida a lluitar per la igualtat de g\u00e8nere especialment en temps dif\u00edcils de la dictadura d&#8217; Augusto Pinochet.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":87,"featured_media":33523,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[40125,40124],"class_list":["post-65014","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-la-independent","tag-dictadura-pinochet","tag-maria-eugenia-hirmas"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Xile. 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