{"id":59778,"date":"2014-02-12T19:09:32","date_gmt":"2014-02-12T18:09:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/marina-subirats-a-la-6a-tertulia-salambo\/"},"modified":"2023-02-25T00:02:42","modified_gmt":"2023-02-24T23:02:42","slug":"marina-subirats-a-la-6a-tertulia-salambo","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/en\/marina-subirats-a-la-6a-tertulia-salambo\/","title":{"rendered":"Marina Subirats a la 6a. Tertulia Salamb\u00f3"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><strong><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><strong><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Marina Subirats i Martori (Barcelona 1943) \u00e9s soci\u00f2loga, gestora p\u00fablica i pol\u00edtica catalana. Fou directora de l&#8217;Instituto de la Mujer. Ministerio de Asuntos Sociales&#8221; de 1993 a 1996. Form\u00e0 part de la Comissi\u00f3 d&#8217;Igualtat d&#8217;Oportunitats de la Uni\u00f3 Europea entre el 1993 i el 1996. <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Subirats va ocupar tamb\u00e9 diferents carrecs a l&#8217;Ajunament de Barcelona: Regidora d&#8217;Educaci\u00f3 (1999-2006), Presidenta del Consell de SantsMontju\u00efc (1999-2003), Presidenta del Consell de Nou Barris (2003-3006) i Quinta Tinent d&#8217;Alcalde (2003-2006). Durant el franquisme i els primers anys de la democracia, va militar als partits Bandera Roja, PSUC i a Iniciativa per Catalunya.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Com a soci\u00f2loga est\u00e0 especialitzada en els Camps de sociolog\u00eda de l&#8217;educaci\u00f3 i sociologia de la dona.<\/span><br \/><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">A l&#8217;any 2006 va rebre la Creu de Sant Jordi. El 2011 l&#8217; Associaci\u00f3 Catalana de Sociologia, filial de l&#8217;Institut d&#8217;Estudis Catalans, la va guardonar amb el Premi Catalunya de Sociologia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-29302\" style=\"display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats_Salambo2.jpg\" alt=\"Marina Subirats Salambo2\" width=\"400\" height=\"210\" srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats_Salambo2.jpg 400w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats_Salambo2-300x158.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 8pt;\">D&#8217;esquerra a dreta: <span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;\"> <strong>Marta Figueras<\/strong><\/span>, Marina Subirats i <span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva;\"> <strong>M\u00aa\u00c0ngels Cabr\u00e9<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Les organitzadores de la Tertulia Salamb\u00f3, <strong>M\u00aa\u00c0ngels Cabr\u00e9<\/strong>, directora de l&#8217;Observatori Cultural de G\u00e8nere, i <strong>Marta Figueras<\/strong>, delegada a Catalunya de l&#8217; &#8220;Asociaci\u00f3n de Mujeres Cineastas y Medios Audiovisuales&#8221; (CIMA), van presentar a la invitada al nombr\u00f2s grup de dones que es van reunir a l&#8217;emblem\u00e0tic local ubicat al vell mig del cor de Gr\u00e0cia.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Marta Figueras va donar les gr\u00e0cies a totes les tertulianes perqu\u00e8 &#8220;per sisena vegada, l&#8217;aula est\u00e0 plena de dones&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29303 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 400px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 400\/267;display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats-Salambo4.jpg\" alt=\"Marina Subirats-Salambo4\" width=\"400\" height=\"267\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats-Salambo4.jpg 400w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats-Salambo4-300x200.jpg 300w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Tanmateix va recordar que &#8220;l&#8217;1 de febrer, a les 7:45 del mat\u00ed, l&#8217;AVE Barcelona-Madrid, feia un recorregut envers la llibertat&#8221;, amb motiu de la manifestaci\u00f3 prevista a la capital de l&#8217;Estat espanyol per protestar per la nova llei de l&#8217;abortament del Partit Popular&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">La iniciativa va sortir d&#8217;un grup de dones, &#8216;Las Comadres&#8217;, d&#8217;Asturies: &#8220;Un grup de dones lluitadores de la conca minera&#8221;, va comentar Marina Subirats. Amb la movilitzaci\u00f3 es pret\u00e9n que es retiri la nova llei i es mantingui la anterior.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Des de la taula es va invitar a la soci\u00f2loga que fes un rep\u00e0s, com a feminista i gestora, de les \u00faltimes d\u00e8cades del moviment, aix\u00ed com del moment actual. Subirats va posar sobre la taula els interrogants: &#8220;Que ha pret\u00e8s el feminisme delsanys setenta i vuitanta?&#8221; i &#8220;On ens trobem ara?&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">&#8220;Des dels anys seixanta fins els noranta, dos mil, l&#8217;objectiu era el de la movilitzaci\u00f3 per la llibertat i per la igualtat. Durant elsanys seixanta a Estats Units i, un any despr\u00e8s, a Europa, planificar la concepci\u00f3 ja era possible. Les dones volem ser iguals que els homes, per exemple, ocupar els mateixos c\u00e0rrecs. Cuidar de la casa i, sobre tot ser mares, era objecte de cr\u00edtica perque es sublimava. Fou una etapa potent perqu\u00e9 era alliberadora, sense tantes barreres ni obstacles&#8221;, va exposar la soci\u00f3loga.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Va afegir tamb\u00e9 que &#8220;encara ara, les dones contin\u00faem no tenint les mateixes oportunitats que els homes&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Feu avinent que a l&#8217;\u00c0frica i als pa\u00efsos \u00e0rabs, les barreres tradicionals no s&#8217;han trencat en absolut i el patriarcat i la religi\u00f3, son barreres que hi s\u00f3n ben presents.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">De la mateixa manera, els objectius de la igualtat i llibertat no s&#8217;han assolit: &#8220;Han perdut atractiu perqu\u00e9 les dones joves pensen que s\u00f3n lliures, pertant, \u00e9s un objectiu que no les compromet. Per les dones de la nostra generaci\u00f3 va ser un objectiu de vida&#8221;, va sentenciar Marina Subirats.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Conceptes com&#8221;feminisme de la diferencia&#8221;, &#8220;deconstrucci\u00f3 del g\u00e8nere&#8221; (citant a Judith Butlert, especialista en filosofia queer), tamb\u00e9 foren tinguts en compte perSubirats, la qual, despr\u00e8s d&#8217;algunes reflexions, conclogu\u00e9: &#8220;Considero que els g\u00e8neres tenen que desapareixer per ser iguals&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><img decoding=\"async\" style=\"display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" data-src=\"images\/stories\/General_14\/Febrer_14\/Marina_Subirats_Salamb\u00f33.jpg\" alt=\"Marina Subirats Salamb\u00f33\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Segons la catedr\u00e0tica, en primer lloc, &#8220;els enemics del feminisme s\u00f3n la esglesia cat\u00f2lica, i aqu\u00ed hi entra la nova llei de l&#8217;avortament, la separaci\u00f3 dels nens i nenes a l&#8217;escola&#8230; A Am\u00e8rica Llatina s&#8217;ha retrocedit moltiss\u00edm&#8221;. I va completar: &#8220;Cal que tornem a rearmar-nos per lluitar de nou. Hem d&#8217;avan\u00e7ar i no retrocedir&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">&#8220;En segon lloc, un altre enemic del feminisme \u00e9s el capitalisme des del seu punt de vista del consum; una dona objete, que si no es veu com una dona que triomfa gr\u00e0cies al seu sex-appeal, comporta el retorn del color rosa per les nenes a botigues i a anuncis, nenes que tornen a jugar amb nines&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Si ens plantegem si la prostituci\u00f3 constitueix una opci\u00f3 lliure s&#8217;ens etiqueta de represores, hem passat de lliberadores a represores. La lliberaci\u00f3 ja no \u00e9s efectiva perque no es percep com a tal, sin\u00f3 que es percebeix com una repressi\u00f3&#8221;, va insistir.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Devant aquest panorama, Subirats hi veu dos fronts: &#8220;L&#8217;antic i que es pot guanyar, el de la esgl\u00e8sia; i el nou: el de la seducci\u00f3 com a arma, i que es pot perdre&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">&#8220;Ens hauriem de fixar uns objectius m\u00e9s universals&#8221;, continu\u00e0. &#8220;Consum i seducci\u00f3 formen un binomi que en certs aspectes mantenen a les dones en el seu paper de dones objecte&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Per la catedr\u00e0tica &#8220;es pot tendir envers una masculinitzaci\u00f3 de les dones o b\u00e9 mantindre una posici\u00f3 forta dins la societat, sense que sigui necessari rec\u00f2rrer a la imitaci\u00f3&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Segons ella &#8220;la seducci\u00f3 no significa l&#8217;alliberaci\u00f3 i a m\u00e9saquestes dones tan lliures i seductores quan tenen parella agafen una actitut de sudmissi\u00f3. S&#8217;exerceix sobre elles un clar control: per exemple, mitjan\u00e7ant la telefon\u00eda m\u00f2bil. Tamb\u00e9 s&#8217;els controla la roba que porten&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Per la soci\u00f2loga &#8220;s&#8217;ha arribat a aconseguir una certa igualtat de sexes, per\u00f2 la difer\u00e8ncia de g\u00e8neres \u00e9sbrutal&#8221;, va sentenciar.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">En el decurs de laTert\u00falia es va parlar tamb\u00e9 de temes com el de la viol\u00e8ncia de g\u00e8nere, rols, societat i viol\u00e8ncia, tr\u00e0fic d&#8217;armes, noves generacions, aprenentatge de g\u00e8nere, crisi i feminisme, estereotips feministes&#8230;<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">En definitiva, un r\u00e0pidper\u00f2ampliresum de posicions i punts de vista sobre el movimentfeministe. Un rep\u00e0s del passat, una ullada al present i algunesprediccions, m\u00e9s o menysoptimistes, respecte a com es percebe el futur.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">&#8220;La \u00fanica posibilitat de guanyar aquesta batalla \u00e9s lluitant juntes tamb\u00e9 amb els homes, perqu\u00e9 no \u00e9s un problema d&#8217;homes i dones, sino de civilitzaci\u00f3. Els homes han de ser el que s\u00f3n, els nostres aliats&#8221;.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\">Aix\u00ed va concloure la seva intervenci\u00f3 Marina Subirats, que va aportar des de la serenitat, una perspectiva constructiva i conciliadora.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: left;\"><span style=\"font-family: trebuchet ms,geneva; font-size: 10pt;\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-29304 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 466px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 466\/134;display: block; margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto;\" data-src=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats_Salambo5.jpg\" alt=\"Marina Subirats Salambo5\" width=\"466\" height=\"134\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats_Salambo5.jpg 400w, https:\/\/laindependent.cat\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/Marina_Subirats_Salambo5-300x86.jpg 300w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 466px) 100vw, 466px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 Marina Subirats i Martori (Barcelona 1943) \u00e9s soci\u00f2loga, gestora p\u00fablica i pol\u00edtica catalana. Fou directora de l&#8217;Instituto de la Mujer. Ministerio de Asuntos Sociales&#8221; de 1993 a 1996. Form\u00e0 part de la Comissi\u00f3 d&#8217;Igualtat d&#8217;Oportunitats de la Uni\u00f3 Europea [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":72,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[26305],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-59778","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-igualtat"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.8 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Marina Subirats a la 6a. Tertulia Salamb\u00f3 | La Independent<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Des d&#039;elsanys seixanta fins els noranta, dos mil, l&#039;objectiu era el de la movilitzaci\u00f3 per la llibertat i per la igualtat. 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